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The 13%
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The conversations top producers are actually having.
Lance Billingsley sits down with the top producers, team leaders and industry insiders who've figured out how to last, and get specific about how they did it. Real guests. Real numbers. Real plays you can run this week.

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Hey there
I'm Lance Billingsley.
I wrote The 13% around one question: why do 87% of real estate professionals leave the business within five years while 13% thrive?
For more than a decade I've coached hundreds of real estate professionals on the answer, the FIRE framework from the book: Focus, Initiative, Resilience and Execution. I coached for Tom Ferry and co-owned one of the top five teams at Realty ONE Group, so what you hear on this show comes from building a business, not just studying one.
Every week we get specific. We bring on the people who are doing it, from professionals who started with a goal of "don't go broke" to the president of the National Association of REALTORS®, and we talk about what's actually working.
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The 13% Playbooks
Quick, tactical sessions. One move you can put to work this week.
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- 03The Legal Landmines Agents Step on Every Day (And How to Avoid Them)with Mandy Neat
- 04The Shocking Reason Your Sphere Isn't Sending You Businesswith Amy Stockberger
13% stories
The ones who stayed.
Every guest on this show beat the 87% math in their own way. Here are a few you shouldn't miss.

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She Left a Steady Paycheck. Now She Runs a Team of 8.
Jaylene Clawson left a steady paycheck to sell real estate. Her first-year goal was "don't go broke." By July she had 10 closings. Today she runs a team of 8.
Read and listen →Conversations with industry leaders
Show notesWhy NAR's President Says Pocket Listings Are a Step Backward
with Kevin Brown

Reducing Risk, Raising Professionalism: How NAR Is Strengthening Real Estate
with Kevin Sears

How to Turn Your Real Estate Business Into a Referral Machine
with Michael Maher

Reject the Real Estate Reset: Why Top Agents Don't Start Over in January
with Leigh Brown
Professionals who beat the odds
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